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Archive for April, 2006

A Pineapple Question

Posted by pmpoker on April 24, 2006

Over at PokerStage, Falstaff asks if he made the right play in breaking going with KT with the open-ended straight draw and backdoor flush draw on a KQJ flop with two clubs when he held KJT.

My reply:

The only resource I know for Pineapple (albeit for high-low) is the satirical yet useful Crazy Pineapple for Advanced Players by Jerrod Ankenman.

Bsed on what I have read, I think that breaking your made hand to draw is incorrect, but would have been correct if you are raised. Your opponent may be slowplaying, but may be drawing to a hand like K9 or Q9 or JT. Also consider that, if you make a straight, you are less likely to get paid off unless your opponent has the same hand, so you are better off hoping to make a boat if your opponent makes trips or is slowplaying a flopped flush or hoping that your opponent makes a worse two pair.


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Daniel Negreanu Quizzes You on Omaha

Posted by pmpoker on April 24, 2006

This Full Contact Poker forum quiz by Daniel Negreanu asks what hand you would prefer in a heads-up O8 scenario.

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Badugi: Korean for Spotted Dog

Posted by pmpoker on April 20, 2006

Chris Fargis gives a language lesson while playing a game so bizarre that people don’t agree on how to spell it or pronounce it.

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The Poker Player I Aspire to Be

Posted by pmpoker on April 14, 2006

From The 2+2 Gambling Forum February 1998 Archive Digest, a post by JimmyR

This is they key: In the higher limits the better players are very astute at ascertaining when you are out of line and when you are not. How they do this is a mystery suffice it to say that a combination of experience and card savvy allows them to make what appear to be some very strange plays. The average player may make some of these plays by simply reading, studying and concentrating very deeply when they are playing, watching every hand and learning their opponents habbits while they are waiting for a hand. Every once in a while a situation will develop that calls for a raise or re-raise without much of hand becaue of something you have observed. Yet, if you are not alert, or don’t have the “nerve” to make these types of moves you will be costing yourself some money at the bottom line.

Sometimes, but only sometimes, I’ve made this sort of connection. I don’t have the hand history, but I remember a hand on fifth street where I had a scary board, but only a pair of threes. I bet out, and a trash-talking player who had no respect for me raised. A third player cold-called. Something just didn’t feel right, so I three-bet. Or maybe I was on tilt because this player kept playing back at me and outdrawing me, but I felt he was just trying to represent that he had hit his overpair out. Both players folded. It’s a good thing this was online, because they couldn’t see me do the happy dance.

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Completing the Bring-In in Stud.

Posted by pmpoker on April 11, 2006

Via the 2+2 Forum January 1998 Archive Digest:

Some thoughts on completing when bringing in. I never do it. Mason Malmuth says that he “virtually” never does it. If you’ve ever played on Fill Tilt Poker, Perry Friedman goes borderline ballistic if you do it.

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RGP on PLO/8

Posted by pmpoker on April 10, 2006

This thread talks about the value of top set in PLO/8 on a flop with two low cards without a low draw.

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Mason Malmuth on Stud Variance

Posted by pmpoker on April 4, 2006

From the 2+2 December 1997 Archive Digest:

According to Mason Malmuth, your stud variance relative to your (bah) hold em variance depends upon your skill level. An expert hold em player will win more consistently and have a lower standard deviation than an expert stud player (assuming equal opposition), but the stud player will have a higher win rate. For merely good players, the reverse is true, with the stud player having the lower variance.

Malmuth suggests it might be due being able to read hands better in hold em because of the shared river card. I have my own theory. In hold em, I think that the expert player’s advantage over the merely good player comes more from saving bets (in an earlier message, Sklansky, Malmuth, or Zee–I forget which–said that at high level hold em, most of your profit comes from better preflop selection against opponents who play equally well after the flop but make the mistake of thinking they can get away with playing more hands because of their skill). I’m not yet an expert player in stud, but while a merely good player is one who has learned a lot of the “automatic” plays, the expert is probably has an edge by knowing additional spots in which to call or raise when there is actually a very mild positive expectation. Taken as a whole, additional wagers that are +EV but only slightly would lead to the result of a higher win rate at the price of a higher variance.

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Sklansky on the Availability of Stud 8

Posted by pmpoker on April 4, 2006

From the 2+2 November 1997 Archive Digest:

The answer is probably because the game is so much more technical than psychological. Thus intuitive non- technicians lose quickly and have no fun. (Omaha hi-lo also puts a premium on technical skill but at least in that game it is a lot easier to get lucky playing hands you shouldn’t.) Any game that doesn’t give weak players a decent chance to win in the short run, (No Limit Holdem being another example) is usually hard to find.

Sklansky ended up wrong about no limit (bah) hold em, but perhaps only because someone invented capped buy-in games. Good poker games strike up a balance between gambling and skill. People with skill usually aren’t going to win a lot if they can’t occasionally gamble. (See weak-tight.)

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TOEing the line

Posted by pmpoker on April 2, 2006

Felicia Lee writes up a session of TOE, a mix of Triple Draw, Omaha/8, and Stud/8.

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