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Archive for March, 2007

Some California Lowball and Mississippi Stud/8

Posted by pmpoker on March 27, 2007

Via Mark Gritter, a trip report by ts4z that includes some Mississippi Stud/8 and California lowball.


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Pot Limit vs Limit Omaha/8

Posted by pmpoker on March 21, 2007

Over at Nickelanddimes, Drizztdj has problems with limit omaha/8. My problem is reversed. I can’t make sense of PLO8, but have no problem understanding LO8. I have the same problem in (bah) hold em, where I have a better understanding of limit.

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Greg Raymer Plays Five Card Draw

Posted by pmpoker on March 19, 2007

As Tom Bayes notes, PokerStars weekly tournament leaderboard winner ShaunDeeb made the unusual choice of limit five card draw for his heads-up freeroll against Greg Raymer, implying in the chat that perhaps he chose it because Raymer is relatively inexperienced in it. Raymer ended up winning after a key suckout. There’s also a 2+2 thread with a couple of hands posted.

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Fishy McDonk’s Razz Tournament Strategy

Posted by pmpoker on March 16, 2007

Fishy McDonk has a Razz MTT Strategy Post,

While I can’t say that I agree with everything written (for example, I disagree with “usually” calling a bet on fourth when you brick), I think that most players I see would benefit from reading this.

Part of the play here has to do with understanding how to play in multi-way pots against loose players. This is one situation where weak-tight is fairly close to correct strategy. If people are limping in with face cards showing, you should still raise to punish those players, but if you are in a spot where the playability of your hand changes greatly depending upon what you catch on fourth street, you should consider waiting until fourth or later to put get raises in.

In razz tournaments, I will ram and jam if there is a maniac who is just giving away money, and you should, too, because you’re not going to get a better spot for racking up chips. But if your opponents are more sedate, you should consider waiting a bit before you push your good hands hard, so you can see what type of player you are up against. Sometimes, you catch hands where you have no choice but to bet. Other times,

One important consideration in tournament strategy is that you should avoid some of the marginal +EV spots that you would play in a cash game. I’m not a big fan of defending your bring-in in razz, although there are some opponents against whom you can consider it, but to whatever extent that you do make that play, you should do it less in a tournament than in a cash game. Sure, your opponents may be stealing more, but it’s going to hurt you a lot more in a tournament those times that you keep catching just enough to stay in vs. a player who actually has a hand.

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DeathDonkey vs Mimi Tran

Posted by pmpoker on March 11, 2007

DeathDonkey writes about a hand against Mimi Tran in a 200/400 triple draw/stud/8 mixed game. Long story short, Tran, an alleged angle shooter, apparently flips out after thinking DeathDonkey shot an angle on her.

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Lowball Gurus

Posted by pmpoker on March 10, 2007

Mark Gritter points to a new website at It’s currently under construction, but it already has some stuff up.

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NumbBono Hits the Stud-Hammer-Boat

Posted by pmpoker on March 8, 2007

See the screen cap.

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Low Limit Stud

Posted by pmpoker on March 6, 2007

From the 2+2 archives some discussion on playing low limit stud,.

Ray Zee has an important point, that if there are many loose players, as is normal in low limit games, they act as additional antes that make hands more playable.

Vince Lepore suggests that you want to play less aggressively in these games (and Zee says that trapping is important). One reason is that these games often have a small or no ante structure. You want to be able to get in cheap for just the bring-in with a lot of hands with big pot potential, then you want to work at building the big pots that can be won with those hands.

Overall, there are two strategies. A tighter one with smaller wins, but fewer losses, and a looser one that has more swings. The former is interested in making sets while the later is more interested in jamming with draws.

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Lolaschaubs: Start and finish with Pocket Queens

Posted by pmpoker on March 5, 2007

Schaubs plays in a half-hold em, half-omaha tournament. I think I read half the post.

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The Free Showdown Play

Posted by pmpoker on March 5, 2007

Ed Miller writes about the “Free Showdown Play at his website. Although he is talking about (bah) hold em, I think that the play has merit in other forms of poker.

I think it has less merit in omaha variants. As Miller notes, this play works best agaiinst aggressive opponents, but in omaha and omaha/8, there are so many scare cards that can come on the river that an aggressive opponent has many opportunities for coming again as a bluff. It has more value against a player who typically goes for a check-raise on the river because he lets you check-behind a lot on the river when you are beat.

The free showdown play is more useful in stud. Typically, it works best when you have a hand such as one or two pair with call down value against a player who bets a lot with draws. You’re not going to make him fold his draw any earlier, so, you save yourself some money by waiting for his board to unfold. The key to this play is that you have to a board yourself that discourages him from three-betting you. In razz, for example, it makes no sense to use this play when he is capable of having you board-locked and can know for sure whether or not his hand is the best.

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